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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-04-2019, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
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Blasphemy: Air Suspension installation

So I am sure this is blasphemy to ask this question, but I am looking to install air suspension on my '59 and was wondering if anyone has done a similar installation on an X-Frame? I am interested in discussing how and where to run the air line from the front to the rear.

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-04-2019, 12:18 PM
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I can not help as I have never done it. Used to be as common as dirt mid forties through early sixties: it was a popular trend in southern California called "Low riders". Larga vida baja y lenta

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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-05-2019, 10:05 AM
 
 
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I have seen it done. A local guy actually just won an award at Goodguys with his 59 on air suspension. I only know his info from Instagram. if you have that, you might be able to message him on there and get some info and check out what he has done.Check out @Terry-rials

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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-11-2019, 09:22 AM
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I would probably run it like the brake and fuel lines, through the drive shaft tunnel. Since your line is not a hard line though it will probably have to be tide to the fuel line to keep it away from any rubs on the drive shaft and you are going to want to carefully check clearances to make sure even during suspension travel it can't rub. This keeps it hidden and protected from the road.
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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-11-2019, 11:44 AM
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Not blasphemy, but, I haven't done air suspension either. A friend has one on his 56 wagon though.



on a perimieter frame, using the fuel line as a path is usually a good option with consideration for the air line being more heat sensitive.

You might also consider 'adel' clamps if you want a specific routing path, perhaps down the rocker panel.



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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-21-2019, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
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Just a quick update for the group:

Air lines have been installed successfully. I install 1/2" tubing inside the frame ans a guide/sheath for the 3/8" air line. I also installed rubber grommets where the tubing comes out of the frame on each end. I have a nice video of it working, but cannot post it.
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 03:21 AM
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Actually I just noted the elephant plastic mock up block and heads you have in your photo. That is blasphemy to a MOPAR purist. Surprised you found an oil pan that fit that combination. Don't forget the oil filter hanging off the front of the motor that gets in the way of everything.

Only thing wrong with the Hemi design was the oiling system. If Keith Black hadn't cast a BBC block out of aluminum that accepted Hemi heads everyone in the top Fuel ranks would still be running a BBC. Because the Hemi couldn't finish a race under boost without blowing up for lack of oil pressure. If you ever wonder why just look at the oil that comes out of the engine after a race: goes in as 90 weight, and comes out as zero weight due to fuel dilution from blow by).

Hemi heads were a gift from God, but the the original 1958 Chrysler "B" engine that the RB 413/426 wedge engine was based on was a poor design. It wasn't until 1965 that Chrysler reworked the Chrysler "B" engine with the introduction of the 440 truck engine that they got all of the bugs out (the new 500 cube Hemi crate engines are based on the newer revised block castings).

Had you considered the 472? (a 409 bored thirty with a turned down 454 crank installed). Today I was scanning a bunch of 1995 Chevy High Performance magazines that are full of 409, and early Impala SS cars due to the interest generated in the 1994-'96 Impala SS car and the thirtieth anniversary of the BBC.

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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 04:53 AM Thread Starter
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My friend, that is an LS3 block and an 700R4 transmission, both mock up blocks. The current situation is an LS3 and 6L80e out of 2017 Chevrolet SS that was T-boned.

here is a link to the video of it being started for the first time: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajpf42ksez...20LS3.mp4?dl=0

and here is a link of the air suspension: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aqeudw49zc...0test.mov?dl=0
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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 12:13 PM
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Sorry about that I thought it was a 426 Hemi with the plug tubes going into the head through the valve covers that were not as yet installed. Definitely need more sleep.

Actually what is really sad is I have more experience building a Hemi for top fuel (used to work with Garlits) than I do with the LS-x.

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