64 4 Door - Impala Tech
Wheels & Tires What fits?

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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-20-2020, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
 
 
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Hey peeps, i am looking at widening my factory 14" steel rims to 8" and running a 245/50/14 tyre with original hub caps, also lowering by 2", has anyone done it or have any pics? or pros and cons?
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-20-2020, 06:29 PM
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I have a 64 -4door as well Welcome to the site!
I have 14x7 wheels (I think it is a 3.75" backspacing) on stock drum brakes. Running 245/60R14 Diamond Back III white wall tires (BF Goodrich tires T/A Radials with a white wall vulcanized on them) that are 25.6” Diameter. According to my notes, the recommended rim for the tires was 7"-8.5" wide. The tires are not as tall as stock, so it sits lower. Not too noticeable, but gives it a nicer stance. How much lower that is, I am not sure, but I do notice I have to bend over a little to reach the door handle. As it is, I have to really slow down over speed bumps to keep the mufflers from scraping.

On the suspension side, it is fairly stock:

Springs:
Moog 658A front (listed as SS springs)
Moog 6033 rear (listed as Heavy Duty)

Shocks
Monroe Sensa-trac

Bushings
Energy Suspension Poly Graphite bushings

Swaybar
Addco front anti-sway bar.

The springs firm up the ride so it is not floating all over the place like the old springs I had. Rides more like a modern car, nice balance between firm enough, but not harsh.
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Cheers for your reply mate very helpfull.
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-06-2020, 10:56 AM
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As to widening your wheels. It was very common back in the days of stock car racing when they actually raced a stock car with a hopped up motor and the axles off of a one ton truck. Every town had a shop with a big engine lathe to turn the wheels, and a hefty slip roller to bend the flat steel plate into a circle to add to the stock wheel.

Since NASCAR stopped using stock cars (they are all tube frame funny cars with a home made aero dynamic upside down bath tub that uses a big decal on the windshield and decals for headlights and grill work to identify what the brand of car they run is; wheels are no longer stock either. As such few bother any more to widen steel wheels except for dune buggies and 4x4 trucks. So that is the kind of shop to look for today.

Your other possibility is a ship repair shop. They will have the equipment to do the work if they have the time for such a small project; and the knowledge of how to do it. Not to mention here in the states those facilities are kept behind barricades guarded by cops and federal marshals to control immigration and drugs from getting into the country.

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I just bought my wider wheels from Summit ;D

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I just bought my wider wheels from Summit ;D
But he lives in New Zealand. So he has to pay for the Chinese made wheel that has already crossed the Pacific ocean once to get to California to be shipped by rail to Ohio, then shipped back to California by truck to be put on a ship bound for New Zealand and to pay on top of the price plus shipping an import fee that often cost more than the price of the part. Widening an existing wheel might well be much cheaper, and it guarantees that his full wheel covers will fit if he starts out with the stock steel wheel.

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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-07-2020, 07:44 AM
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Yeah, the shipping fee would definitely be a lot. It may not be worth it.
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-09-2020, 01:56 AM
 
 
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I have a 64 -4door as well Welcome to the site!
I have 14x7 wheels (I think it is a 3.75" backspacing) on stock drum brakes. Running 245/60R14 Diamond Back III white wall tires (BF Goodrich tires T/A Radials with a white wall vulcanized on them) that are 25.6 Diameter. According to my notes, the recommended rim for the tires was 7"-8.5" wide. The tires are not as tall as stock, so it sits lower. Not too noticeable, but gives it a nicer stance. How much lower that is, I am not sure, but I do notice I have to bend over a little to reach the door handle. As it is, I have to really slow down over speed bumps to keep the mufflers from scraping.

On the suspension side, it is fairly stock:

Springs:
Moog 658A front (listed as SS springs)
Moog 6033 rear (listed as Heavy Duty)

Shocks
Monroe Sensa-trac

Bushings
Energy Suspension Poly Graphite bushings

Swaybar
Addco front anti-sway bar.

The springs firm up the ride so it is not floating all over the place like the old springs I had. Rides more like a modern car, nice balance between firm enough, but not harsh.

Totally cool set up! We're gonna check out your stuff here soon as we plan for the incoming 4-door project, we'll just finish installing the parts from 4Wheelonline onto the truck and clear the garage. I like the clean looks.
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