OK so no slush fund in another bank organized @brickwhite , but I did manage some more progress over the weekend.
I've removed pretty much the front end now (give or take) and so some real dismantle progress can be seen.
I am having a bit of a time removing a few bolts on what I call the front bumper supports. Two of them come straight out from the chassis and the other one is the one on an angle from the chassis and that bolts at the intersection of the front fender and front guard. See photos:
I've used multiple loosening fluids, and over multiple days. I've even given the bolts the evil eye and a few choice words but they still wont budge. Next will be going to get a small gas bottle and heat the bolts up. I really don't want to have to resort to cutting them off but if it comes to it then I guess that's what I'll have to do. But as I'm not in a rush so that will be the absolute last resort. I'll keep chipping away at them in the meantime.
At the end of the day this is where I'm up to:
As I have limited space, I hung the fenders from the roof of the shed for safe storage.
I have decided that once the body is off that the chassis will definitely get powder coated. I have done some research and it definitely looks the way to go. I have to thank @brickwhite for the photo and the suggestion.
So I've finished work for the day and I've been sorting through my photos etc making sure that they are catalogued properly and all notes of removed parts are made and stored safely. Day off tomorrow so I'll be back out in the shed and continuing the removal process.
In the meantime I'm making a bit of a list of the process just so I can plan. I like to plan....
Anyway, I'd be interested in the thoughts of those who have been down this path and see if my plan of how to tackle the order of things is ok, or there might be a slight change in the order of doing things. Here goes:
1. Remove, tag, take copious amounts of notes and photos - in the process of doing this
2. Remove engine and transmission
3. Body off frame
4. Frame out for sandblast and powder coat
a. Disc conversion (front and rear),
b. replace diff if I go down that path, otherwise recondition current one (I'm leaning towards replacing)
c. Suspension and steering
d. Install fuel and brake lines
6. Soda blast underbody, treat and repaint
7. Engine and transmission completed and installed on frame
8. Paint firewall
9. Body back on chassis
10. Repair and undercoat fenders, doors, boot lid (trunk I think you guys call it) and bonnet (hood) both sides of each
11. Repair and undercoat the body
12. Repair/replace as required, all engine bay parts and paint
13. Install rest of engine bay items:
a. brake system
d. other bits I'm yet to learn about
14. Paint inside of all front end panels/parts
15. Fit fenders back on car
16. Check fit doors, hood and trunk lid and remove
17. Leave off the front upper and lower panels as they need to be painted and then the grille sections bolted/rivetted back on
18. Paint inside vehicle
19. Install wiring harness
20. Sound deadener, carpet underlay
21. Somewhere in here are the seats and door cards being reupholstered
22. Install dash items
23. Interior except seats, carpet, hood lining, lights, speakers etc is now in place
24. Inside of hood and trunk lids, doors and A pillar etc painted ready for panels to be bolted back on
25. re-Check all fitments of doors, hood, trunk lid and complete installation
25. sand, reprime, sand and sand and sand to make sure the body is perfect
26. Ensure new glass, wheels and anything else has been ordered
27. Paint car
28. Become even more impatient now that I'm sooooo close
29. Install rest of interior
30. Polish paintwork so that it is like glass
31. Install trim work that somewhere in here has gone off to be rechromed
32. Install front and rear glass
33. Grin like an idiot now that the car is complete
The car is almost completely stripped now. The doors and boot lid are still on as is one stubborn screw holding a moulding on the passenger door. But all wiring, dash, interior etc is on my shelves.
This weekend I hope to take out the motor and trans. Just waiting to see if my mate is free to give me a hand.
But then it will be time for the body off. I have thought long and hard about the chassis with regard to POR15 vs Powdercoat. I keep going back and forward but I think I’ve landed on powder coating. I got a quote today and I think it’s worth it.
Ok nearly 3 weeks since I've updated.......lots done.
Update part 1:
With the help of a mate, we removed the motor and transmission. With the front end completely off it was a super easy process. As you can see, I have limited space in the shed but I'm managing to arrange everything so that I do have enough room to move around. I have another smaller shed behind this one that I'm using to store some of the bigger parts.
So the motor is sitting happily on its stand now and the 2 speed power glide tranny is sitting under my workbench with all holes plugged to ensure no moisture gets in. Its really humid where I live and so I have to be careful.
I'm still very much in two minds as to what I'll do with the 327. Rebuild it and put back in or clean it up and store it and put in a big block. It will all come down to budget. Getting a BB here in Aus seems a lot more expensive than you guys pay in the States. That is research for another time.
It was funny to see that the "fix" for some of the fluid leaks around the motor was to stuff rags between the leak point and the chassis or other engine part. They did what they had to do without spending the $$ to fix it I suppose.
With the motor and transmission out it was time to really focus my attention on getting the body off of the chassis. I found a diagram with the location of the body/chassis mount points and found that where I should have had 6 bolts each side, there were only 5. Not sure if the car is/was missing one or whether I just misread the diagram.
I did have a few issues with the three of the four bolts at the front.
Once I cracked the bolt so it would turn, well so did the square nut up in the body. I attached some vice grips on and slowly but surely managed to get them all out.
Then, working solo and using my engine crane and a lot of care, I slowly but surely lifted the body off. I don't have a rotisserie and didn't want to spend over $1000 on one so I had to think of other options. I had thought about suspending the body from the roof of my shed as the shed frame is extremely solid, but quickly changed my mind. I decided instead to build a frame to store the body on while I worked on the underside.
Here are some photos:
Using the wire rope which is rated at 759kg, I lifted the body up by about 500mm. I then built the first part of my frame which consisted of two legs and the support beam. I planned for this lift to happen in three stages.
You can see in the photo below the frame that I put under the front after stage 1:
With the front up, I moved everything around to the back. As the front was already up about 500mm, I lifted the back up to its full height of 1m and built the frame for that to sit on. I also attached a truckie strap from the roof for extra support. Its not holding much weight, but provides that little bit of extra piece of mind.
With the rear end done, I went back around the front and lifted it up to its final height. To keep the body pretty much level, the front is up to about 800mm give or take. Again, I added the truckie strap to the front for extra support.
With that done, I was able to finish building the rest of the frame and this is the final product:
I could probably put some more bracing in but its very solid. I push on the body and it doesn't move so I'm happy. Especially since I'll be spending a fair bit of time under there.
With the body up that high, I'm able to move the chassis in and out easily. I've started the process of removing all the suspension and steering components.
The underside of the body isn't too bad. Just a bit of surface rust which looks worse than what it really is.
Underside of trunk (boot), with the fuel tank removed.
Main floor section. As you can see, three of the sections have been replaced. This was done by the previous owner. The vehicle has surface rust only now.
View from the front looking back.
I'm now up to stripping the chassis of all bolted on bits and pieces. After a fair bit of research, I've decided on using Global West suspension components. I was thinking of sway bar front and rear, however at this point I'm thinking that I'm not going to install a rear sway. This car is going to be a weekend cruiser with the occasional drive to work. I'm not taking it to the track or anything like that. If I was to put a rear sway on, I was going to use Hotchkis as Global West no longer make a rear sway as they don't believe it is necessary.
I am toying with the idea (chevy purists close your eyes), of removing the 10 bolt diff and replacing it with a 9 inch rear end. Costs seem to vary and I'm still in two minds. If I keep the 10 bolt it will get reconditioned. It all depends on what way I go with the motor.
Disc brake conversion is also something I'll be doing. Research into which brand is still continuing. I'll be running 18 inch wheels - probably 18 x 10 rear and 18 x 8 front.
If you've read my other posts, I have gone back and forth with regard to the chassis - powdercoat vs paint. Well I have locked in my decision. I ordered POR-15 from Amazon the other day and apparently it's being delivered today. So that's what I'm going to do - strip the chassis and paint with POR-15 rust preventative and then Top Coat.
I've ordered enough POR-15, that I'll also be painting the underside of the body with that as well.
Chassis all done. I used POR15 rust preventative and Topcoat. Two coats of each. I’ve read lots of opinions on POR15. Surface prep and attention to detail goes a long way to achieving a great result. That takes time and effort. I really took my time on this and this is the result.
I’m really happy with the result. I haven’t added it up yet, but I think about 40-50 hours went into the frame. I took my time and really made sure I got into every nook and cranny. Yes sandblasting would have been much quicker and easier but that would have been easy. This has given me a sense of achievement and satisfaction.
Suspension parts on order from the states. Expected delivery late July/early Aug.
Now I’m researching diffs and tackling the underbody. I’m not hitting that with POR15 as originally planned. I’ll be stripping back and coating with 3M stoneguard before top coating in black.
Anyway, that’s where I’m up to. Thanks for reading 😃
Booked the rear end in for an overhaul yesterday. It's a 10 bolt 8.2. The only part I'll be keeping is the casing so it will look original but will have all new internals - axles, LSD etc. Plus a powdercoat so it will look brand new. Will drop it off mid June and then parts availability depending, will take approx 4 - 6 weeks til I get it back. That will time nicely with my delivery of suspension parts from Summit Racing.
My wife said to me the other day "hmmmm this is going to cost a bit to do up isn't it?" 🤑👿